What's the Difference Between Writing and Writing?

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"I don't care about the noun to be a writer. We're all writers," he says. "People who are truly compelled by writing, they write." He writes for three hours every day with no phone or internet connection. The author's first book was a pop thrash thriller at age 21; his only rule now is that he has to wake up and start writing.

Joshua Fields Millburn is one-half of The Minimalists. He is also a New York Times–bestselling author, Emmy-nominated Netflix filmmaker, podcaster, writing instructor, and international speaker.

But in this conversation, he spoke about why he doesn’t get too attached to those labels, the practice of grounding, why he doesn’t use his phone on Saturdays, why discipline is a misnomer, and much more.

(0:00) Intro

(4:55) How Do Accomplishments Feel?

(6:25) Kapil Gupta

(16:03) Why Are We Doing Things?

(21:28) Grounding

(27:01) Un-Schooling

(30:10) How Does Joshua Choose Teachers?

(33:00) Discipline Is A Misnomer?

(40:00) Screenless Saturdays

(45:00) Hugging Fans & Connection

(50:43) Josh on AI

(52:08) Fiction/Reading