I'm a much bigger believer in n f tis, not necessarily as profile pictures, but as just a way to make digital things feel and behave more physically. As we spend more time on line, like i think there's going to be interesting things that people come up with. Defy is just never where i've been particularly excited. I don't think tradfy is particularly exciting. Like loans, there's nothing exciting about bringing that on. The block chain has never, never, made me particularly particularly excited. But i do think there's gong to be a lot more on the kind of creative duels side and on the social network side and all this kind of stuff.

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