It's very difficult to gauge the fight back. We do have reports that ukranian forces have repelled one offensive in lugansk oblis, which is the region right next to russia. Ukranians are bewildered. They don't quite know what they can offer russia in response. But if you wer to ask me what ladimir poton wanted, i would also struggle to answer because certainly in the terms of something which might be deliverable for you crane,. what mister pooton wants essentially, and certainly what his speechers have said, the end of ukrane is a nation state. And naturally, ukranians wouldn't want to