The consensus certainly vegas and i would say the vast majority of you know media folks and whatnot had the sons as the distinctive favorite in the west that point they spanked the sons in six. I'm not trying to hear any criticism about all quality of opponent now me the question is if jabal Murray was healthy the last two years would the nuggets have already won a championship? And then the what if that we will find out is is this the start of you know a a multi-championship run for the nuggets because you look at this core joker just starting his prime Murray just starting hisprime Gordon in his prime Porter Michael Porter Jr.