There's no executive privilege to assert like it's all going to be coming out unless it's getting burned. I don't know. Just the whole thing makes me feel uncomfortable.

I just it's a tragic situation. Why

is that a secret service lying to us because she's definitely lying about that slope to proof. There's just it's obvious. She ain't

good at her job.

I mean what I am afraid of

is that has this been another example of you know there's been discussion of this DEI policy that was put in place and could that have compromised the integrity of the Secret Service to be able to execute the job of protecting these people? Clearly, clearly, there's a problem if someone is allowed to take that shot. Yeah. So it's clear something needs to be done about it.

Yeah, we need like a 9 11 style. Yes. Who did the planning? I think the communications thing is going to be key because remember after 9 11 we realized there was a real lack of communication between like the CIA and the FBI, for example. And I'm curious if we're having that same breakdown of communication between Secret Service and the local, you know, police who are sort of,

yeah, well, if you're not someone didn't know if they encountered this guy, and they didn't know like this guy's on the roof you know you know

that like now if this happened today they'd have a much different reaction I feel like they let their guard down you know they could very well have been incompetence driven by the guard was down they didn't think anything would happen they weren't taking the threat seriously enough all right I gotta leave it there because I have the Vaker Elmaswamy in there. Hey, all right. Guys, thanks so much for being there. You bet. Such a fun time together. Always. I found out during the break why they have their sunglasses on. Let's just say the fellas have been enjoying. They watch out.

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time last year I was a for U .S. president and I'm proud to say that I achieved the impossible, which is that most of you actually know how to say my name by now. So thank you for that. Vivek

Ramaswamy, welcome back to the Megyn Kelly show. That was former 2024 presidential candidate Vivek Ramasmswamy, who took the stage last night and killed. He did so well. Jokes aside, he also came out swinging on the topic of immigration, sharing how his personal story shaped his view and his solution to fixing the crime stemming from the border crisis in our country.

Your message

to every legal immigrant in this country is this. You're like my parents. You deserve the opportunity to secure a better life for your children in America. But our message to illegal immigrants is also this. We will return you to your country of origin. Not because you're all bad people, but because you broke the law. And the United States of America was founded on the rule of law. Powerful

words. But over on CNN, former Biden White House communications director Kate Bedingfield had this tone deaf reaction. There was a lot in there about rule of law. There was this like constant hammering of rule of law and you know he talked about the border and if you break the law we're sending back rule of law rule of law. I don't that is an incredibly rich message coming from a party that has spent the last year you know essentially like tearing down the justice system in this country saying it's politicized, saying that Trump shouldn't be, Trump should be above the law has really been their argument. So I think there is

a fundamental plus the insurrection.

There's a plus the insurrection. So I actually think there's a fundamental tension there in that argument that's it's not really well delivered from the vic there. But also I think it's going to be a problem for Republicans if that's where they're hanging their hat. Scott, you think? Joining me now, Vivek Ramaswamy, former 2024 presidential candidate and host of the Truth Podcast. Vivek, welcome back. Good to be here. So the Republicans, like you, you're not allowed to raise law and order anymore because you objected to what was done to President Trump with the law fair.

Yeah, well, the reality is that too is a violation of law and order, Megan. And one of the things I also said in this speech was addressing black Americans, where I think this issue actually does land, is that for a long time, Republicans were maybe a little tone deaf to black Americans who said for a long time, the justice system was unfair. Well, the reality is we don't want a justice system that's unfair, either on the basis of your skin color or your political beliefs. So I think this culture of the abandonment of the rule of actually runs deep. The same reason we have the southern border crisis is in many ways linked to the reason why we have an abandonment of the rule of law when the people at the top of the chain themselves view the law as an inconvenience. People at the DOJ, people at even investigative agencies like the FBI, local prosecutors like those who have abused the law to not only pursue lawfare against President but even countless other politically unsympathetic defendants. That is part of a cultural breakdown. And so you know what, I disagree with her characterization that it's either or. They go together. So we need to restore.

Over on, I mean, I watch all the channels, but I love seeing reactions to all this stuff. Van Jones was saying, I don't think black people want to be patronized like Bevac did. So any outreach by a Republican to black voters saying, you know what, because you had a great part in your speech about that, that's patronizing that you're not allowed to do. It's better just to remain silent and not seek their vote, you see. Yeah.

And so I think that AOC was reacting to my speech last night as well. She was rather frenetic. I think part of what's going on is the thing they're upset about is not actually Republican policies because I think there's not a lot to be upset about They're upset we're picking off their voters.