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A Very Special Boxing Day Episode, with Jay Shapiro
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Trump and the Media
We made it a political issue because that's all we can see the world through in America today. It was an issue of Americans being terrified for various reasons and not being able to empathize with one another. The distrust of the media, as you pointed out, has got a lot to do with it. But generally, like what I think the Trump thing, because you put it really well at the beginning there with sort of the I'm corrupt, we're all corrupt, the system's corrupt. That's about right. It's nihilism as a force of just this is the point that I always go to.
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