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Dr. Gavin Ortlund Unpacks Problematic Roman Catholic Dogmas
The Becket Cook Show
The Mysterious Relationship Between Christ and the Elements
The emphasis is more upon the Holy Spirit affecting a union in a more mysterious way so it's not just a symbol right according to all three of those views they're different from what we call a memorialist view sometimes associated with Zwingli. In all three of these views they actually have a lot in common amazingly I mean this is where a lot of evangelicals I think can benefit from really being challenged to consider this that this has actually been the mainstream way of thinking all throughout church history.
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