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The Midterms Man, I'm a Never Trump Republican, Right?
"I was pleased to see people like Kerry Lake lose, but I didn't want that to mean that the Democrats won," he said. "So my hope is that the midterms, the defeat of a lot of those folks will send their probably Trumpy direction because I think again, it's fundamentally not related to conservative values."
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