A lot of business is a couple of weeks ago or a month ago, we're talking about going back to normal. We all have a picture in our head of what that means and who's included in that um. And for the people um that that resonated with, that felt like, that felt like safety, right? Returning back to normal, even though we know that the normal we'd be returning to was not working for the majority of people in this country. So part of it is that we really need to be steadfast and kind of find the courage that we need being like, ok, normal suckt. What do we really want?"

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