Dosage Initiation

The guidelines for like how we started but are still kind of based on a lot of data in the pre fentanyl area. I think it's pretty rare that they're going to stabilize on a dose that's less than 16 and probably are going to need up to 24. Carolyn if a patient didn't want methadone or buprenorphine they said, "I'm not one of those one of those ones" So what would be like an oxy code? Can you like oxy code on 40 milligrams or 30 20 30 milligramslike what is usually I start people at five or 10. Do you ever go the route of just giving full agonists around the clock while