The Problem With CFT

Pete, I want to explore a couple of them with you. There's something they're wanting to argue that CFT is almost too close to any good comprehension of usual care and therefore CFT is nothing new under the sun. And then within that, not from the same people but in amongst the same milieu, there is something quite unique about it but it's being privatized and separated off artificially. So those are sort of competing claims to some extent but I just want to throw them out there and get your reflections on it generally.