Hopes and Aspirations for Podcast Growth in 2025

2024 felt like a bit of a rollercoaster—and while we’re ready to close the book on this year, we wouldn’t be first-class org designers if we passed up the chance to hold a retrospective. Add in the fact that this is Rodney’s 200th episode and BNW + AWWTR have crossed the one million download milestone, and a little celebration feels like the right thing.

In today’s episode, Rodney and Sam reflect on the show’s 2024 season—including the episodes they loved, the episodes they want a do-over on, and what they hope for the show in 2025.

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Mentioned references:

• The Future of HR Miniseries
• The Ready's OS Canvas
• RACI episode: AWWTR Ep. 10
• Leaders as org designers episode: AWWTR Ep. 13
• "McGillicuddy"
• All the small things episode: AWWTR Ep. 19
• "video about the woman who doesn't use a calendar"
• Jason Fox episode: AWWTR Ep. 17 with Jason Fox
• Dual Transformation, book from 2017