Nick Hebert: I kind of let him go down a rabbit hole that would be completely unrelated to whatever main point I'd make. But rather than just keep restating that, I'd kind of follow him down the rabbit hole. My head was always like, oh, well, this points bullshit. So we need to get onto it. The one thing I'm disappointed about is just from a purely debating perspective, I kind of letting him. Nick went and actually emailed a researcher afterwards and she was like, that's my... Yeah, the meal replacement thing.

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