The Challenge Is, I Face a Ton of Challenges

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Elizabeth holmesn is the author of a new book, Super Pump. She says she's interested in super pump because it focuses on her life as a blogger. Holmesn: "I see the struggle of that never to change my my own form"

Given the technology's transformative potential, there is a surprising dearth of quality Science Fiction written about autonomous vehicles. Into that breach steps Patrick McGinty, whose upcoming novel "Test Drive" explores important themes related to AVs as it follows the lives of three test drivers in a climate crisis-stricken Pittsburgh of the near future. McGinty joins the gang to discuss his excellent new fiction, discuss a wide variety of topics, and make the case for renaissance in AV-related SciFi.