We tend to be pretty conservative about how we want our lives to be. But then you know, if you go back say 200 years, let alone 2000 years and say, yeah, look at this life 2000 years in the future. Many people have got to say, oh my god, that's that's dystopian. They're they've lost contact with the real world and now they're just living in these constructed environments. So I think it is a little bit hard for us to to think ahead in that respect.
Last year, Rufus sat down with philosopher David Chalmers to talk about the allure of virtual reality, whether robots will ever achieve consciousness, and the likelihood that we’re living in a simulation (David thinks it’s about 25 percent). It was a fascinating, freewheeling conversation, and we left large chunks of it on the cutting room floor. Now, though, with ChatGPT and other generative AI platforms taking the world by storm, those unaired sections, many of which were about the ethics of artificial intelligence, feel super relevant. So today, we’re sharing our complete interview with David. Buckle up. It’s a wild ride.