Whispolep runner up, robin from hamburg. Robin is some one who learned english at school and then chose to pursue his English studies while still living in germany. Along the way he also decided to start a podcast for learners of german. This conversation ended up being a bit longer than some of the other interviews with whisper lep winners. But that's partly because we found that there were quite a lot of things for us to talk about. We talked about Robin's learning of english after being told by one of his university teachers that he should just give up because he wasn't good enough. And then finally, we thought it could be fun for robin