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S16, Ep8 How To Fail: Joan Bakewell - the legendary broadcaster on life, love and everything in between
How To Fail With Elizabeth Day
Nelson Mandela - The First Interview With Walter Sisulu
You were the first person to interview Nelson Mandela when he was released from prison. He walked with Winnie with their hands clenched together as he was released. And I taught him for half an hour. We didn't cut a word, we just lifted it and put it straight out. Gosh, that's very moving. He was real human being. Your third and final failure is divorce.
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