I think Jack Dorsey is one of the, one of the greats of our, of the last 200 years. And it's just much quieter about his stance on things than a lot of people. But you still have to pay the price of making any kind of mistakes as the head of a company. You don't get any extra bonus points for being a good person. His willingness to go on Rogan and deal directly with some really challenging questions to me earned him tremendous respect.

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