The three second roll is probably the upper limit of where the fear starts to kick in. And just kind you kow, we're calling thim sparks. So like how you just make the spark happen. I just get it going. A lot of times one of the themes i'm playing with is, how do you, are you a side liner? Are you a player, right in a side line, or someone who listens to all the things. It's so important. You can't do that thing on the sideline, you know. Starting a company and making it semi decent is eto catching a wave. But if you're not in the ocean, you can't get bought

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