Dopemin, Love Everybody, Hate This Person

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i would only check my phone during like, little braks. It took me like half way through my run just to be like, you your thoughts are terrible. The people in the experiment that had the easier time were incredibly active. That was the group that had a much easier time with it. There's an addictive, just brain wiring piece that can go away pretty quickly. And then they don'tlike thet i don't need to, i don'tneed to avoid that, rightly.

In today’s episode, we try something different: a special two-part conversation in which Cal coaches his longtime friend, comedian and podcast pioneer Jamie Kilstein, through a digital declutter. The first part of the conversation ends with Cal’s prescription for Jamie, while the second part picks up six weeks later to check in on how things actually went.

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Thanks to Jesse Miller for production, Jay Kerstens for the intro music, and Mark Miles for mastering.