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EP 168 Nate Hagens on Collective Futures

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The Biggest Energy Consumption in Human History?

In your book, you talk about fire as one of the great inventions of humans. I'm just going to push back a little bit about the fire as the big transition. Of course it was. Because after Western civilization, you know what the biggest energy per capita culture in human history was? The Australian Aboriginal people who had an extraordinarily intense, very intelligent land management system based on very regular burning. And if you actually calculate the energy given up by that burning, it's within a factor of two of modern civilization.

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