A lot of people, they think of themselves as being progressive. They want to point a finger at society whenever they see a disparity. I think it misunderstands the difficulty of the problem. You think that if you get the right law, if you have the right public policy, suddenly those disparities will go away. That's a false hope. And moreover, it is probably the wrong goal. But I mean, we could go into that. We were talking about affirmative action which is something else altogether. And you were talking about me and my education, which is also something that's a little bit different. I'm happy to talk about those things.

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