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60 - Solarpunk vs Lunarpunk with Manu Alzuru & Rachel-Rose O'Leary

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LunarPunk Is a Prototype of Civilization

Solar punk is about using tactics such as speculation to imagine a future which is a very clear critique of what we call state-based society. It has a definition of what the state is and, you know, it tries to define a way forward outside the state. So the state as understood by LunarPunks, it's largely influenced by Archlan and this is a prototype of civilization. This is a civilizational form that has lived for 5,000 years at various points in history. Other kinds of civilization, democratic civilization, have been repressed. We have state-based civilization at its most extreme - combined with technology and it's combined with capitalism to become immensely powerful.

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