Macro views: Apollo on S&P returns and land investing

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• (58:46) - Mike Swan, owner and managing broker of Swan Land Company, specializes in ranch, farm, and recreational land sales across the Rocky Mountain West. In the conversation, he discusses the enduring appeal of land investments in the western United States, noting a slowdown in 2025 due to strong financial markets but anticipating renewed interest in early 2026. He highlights the premium value of properties with quality water features, the influx of tech industry professionals into Montana seeking safety and lifestyle benefits, and the challenges of generating significant returns from agricultural operations alone, emphasizing the importance of long-term appreciation and conservation-minded ownership.
• (01:24:40) - Matt Levine is a Bloomberg Opinion columnist and author of the daily newsletter "Money Stuff." In the conversation, he discusses his transition from working at Goldman Sachs to becoming a journalist, the evolution and challenges of prediction markets, and the potential implications of insider trading within these markets. He also touches on topics such as the possible SpaceX IPO, the OpenAI-Disney deal, and the growth of private credit in the tech industry.
• (01:57:58) - Mike Gallagher, Head of Defense at Palantir Technologies and former U.S. Congressman, discusses the critical need for the U.S. to expand its naval fleet to deter potential threats, particularly from China, emphasizing the importance of increasing ship production to meet geopolitical challenges. He highlights the Navy's partnership with Palantir to implement the Shipbuilding Operating System (ShipOS), a $448 million initiative aimed at modernizing shipbuilding through artificial intelligence and autonomy technologies, thereby streamlining production and enhancing efficiency. Gallagher also addresses the role of autonomous vessels and the significance of international collaborations in strengthening maritime security.
• (02:17:28) - Saagar Enjeti is a political commentator, journalist, and podcaster best known as the co-host of Breaking Points alongside Krystal Ball. Previously the host of Rising at The Hill, he built a large following for his populist-leaning, anti-establishment analysis across foreign policy, economics, and U.S. politics. He is a graduate of George Washington University and the University of Texas’ LBJ School, and he has written on national security and international affairs for several outlets. Enjeti is widely recognized for his clear, independent commentary that resists traditional left–right alignment.
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