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The Mega Cycle of US-China Relations
Kurt Campbell: The balloon in many ways really impingomized the fragility of US-China relations. He says there is a sense of urgency on both sides that this relationship is just too important for global peace to be left sliding into increasingly open confrontations and so on. There was a debate which maybe we won't get into so much on this episode about, you know, just how much the US was quote unquote sacrificing in order to sort of bring, bring till today this like seeming rapprochement," he said.