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Garry shang is the, i suppose, co founder of civics unplugged. Oi, i met garry, i think, through john forvake um. And we had a conversation about two months ago or so. I'm just really excited to talk to youand hear about your perspective and share it with the audience of this podcast. Miex, excited to be part of whatever web we want to call, whatever messh network we want to say we're part of.
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