Navigating Between the Physical and Spiritual Aspects of Skepticism

There is an aspect where there is something that's tangibly physical and spiritual. So, how do we make sense though of navigating between the two? Navigating the physical aspect and the spiritual aspect? I'll pick up on that because it kind of relates to something I wanted to follow up with what Ray said. Valet always gets mentioned because everybody respects him no matter what end of the spectrum they come from in this field.