"There's always two parts for me, isn't there? Yes, I guess good things not to disassemble what you're saying. It's a thing that I've decided needs to be done by me and that could be a good thing." "But there's a lot of stuff I don't want to do that I have to do," he says. 'That ability to say no or maybe is a very difficult thing for us to do, but it's the only thing that can ensure that we do the things that we claim matter to us'