The Geopolitics of Energy in China

I think it's clearly the case that if you manage to decarbonize electricity, leave in the nuclear question out to it for the moment. I think there's beginning to be evidence that really that the Chinese leadership is a bit fearful about where this competition for liquid natural gas imports has left them. We need to extract metals and minerals from under the earth and that already has a geopolitics to it. And then I think when it comes to Europe, the European countries are all pretty much going to have some of the same difficulties in this geopolitical age as they've had in the age of oil and gas.