I think for people who are who want to build certain new features or aspects that could be built on top of Ethereum, their incentive is actually to create their own L one and then just raise a shit ton amount of money for that L one. So do you think they can never be solved? Like how do you attract developers to build say like the movie M as a roll up versus building an entire L one? Well, I'm very optimistic that we'll see those kind of play out over the next couple of years.

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