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Judge Orders Pence to Testify

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The Special Counsel's Win in the Trump Subpoena

I don't think any judge to tell you the truth that Trump judged or not what, you know, on this kind of a thing wants to be on the wrong side of history because this is about history and it's about the future governance of our country. Whether Trump is indicted or not, he can still run for president. But I do think it will affect how history treats what happened on January 6th. The special counsel seems to keep winning these cases, getting people to testify at the grand jury who don't want to.

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