So, Facebook renames itself meta in reference to the metaverse, makes that their whole identity, releases a couple VR headsets, and then Apple comes along with their own much better headset, and doesn't say the word metaverse once in their presentation. And do I have that right? That is correct. How do you feel if you're Mark Zuckerberg at this point?

Does he feel? If he

feels anything, it's probably some feeling that kind of sounds like this. I

was thinking more of like a...

Well, shucks. Oh no. Yeah, apparently he gave a... They just had an all hands meeting at Facebook, where he said something like, okay, guys,

let's settle down here. Apple did the... You know, they released their own headset, but they have no quote unquote magic solutions, magical solutions. Yeah, he specifically mentioned that they didn't... They were following what was at the same laws of physics as they were. Like, they didn't have any magical solutions to the laws of physics. Yeah.

But our teams haven't already explored and thought of. Well, and he needed to say that because sometimes it really does seem like Apple is bending the laws of space and time to

talk through their asses. Well, it seems more like they're bending the laws of their customers' wallets. Bam!

Got him. Guys, this is talk-linked in case you were wondering. Normally, we release a tech-linked episode, where it's just like a roundup of the daily news, but we're busy. Everything's happening at the company today, so we're going to talk about Apple's announcement of the Vision Pro headset in a bit more detail, especially in the context of these comments that Mark Zuckerberg just made. It's got to be crazy. I mean, so we have both tried VR to a certain extent.

You've tried it way more than I have.

I've kind of like followed along with the developments in VR, so I'm somewhat familiar. You've

tried a PSVR.