Pitching to investors and customers is a very different path, says Jason. Investors care about growth; customers simply want their problem solved. It's acmpletely different icodomy of what people care about verses what investors care about. So switching hats, you know, every day, sometimes by the hour, is difficult. And i think we, we heard earlier from pablo and karen that it was a bit exhausting,. But that you and you get a lot of nowse but you get some yeses.