There is a certain strange assumption built int a lot of thes critiques that somehow firms that don't employ labor are not capitalist. It's not, again, correct to be analyzing a mode of production at the level of the firm. We have to be analyzing it polistically. You can also have firms that actually own and invest and expand their pretty sophisticated inter structures. They produce something, and in producing that thing, they actually engage in all the normal capitalist activities they are supposed to be engaging in. And i feel that people like zubof, they just cannot.

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