I noticed a pattern now that you say it with if you started with debut tells black magic is a browser extension for twitter snapper. That was the first attempt into indie hacking and that was a huge failure so coming from a hacker engineering mindset right I was trying to build an app that looks so good not only from the fensinou but only from the code base perspective. So there's like this domino effect where you began working on a product if you and then the kinds of problems that you ran into trying to build that product gave you the ideas for other products.