It's like you call it a switch, but really it's just getting into that mindset where you're just on. Yeah. And that's what, that's what they're thriving off of, right? I mean, that's why they do it is for that feeling when you're on stage and you're killing it, that is the feeling that is like no other feeling.

Right. Well, what did Joe say? It was like building a mountain, one layer of paint at a time. Like that's a really good way of looking at it. I mean, it's a daunting task. You don't, you don't want to start comedy off thinking that's what it is every day because the, the road ahead is just so long and fraught with obstacles that you just probably your mind wouldn't be able to think about it. You just take it a day at a time, but that's really what you're doing. And then by the end of it, in a sense, you have a masterpiece because you've practiced those layers so much. I mean, you've seen it all of that point.

Yeah, it's cool. I mean, it reminds me, I know we're not going, we're not talking about Big J or Ari, but it reminded me that point of like keeping at it and doing it for the fans. Big J was talking about, if you remember, he's talking about the Doris film and watching, you know, thinking Jim Morrison is such a badass, but then, you know, towards the end of his life, you wouldn't show up on stage or it'd be too drunk and it'd be a mess. And, you know, when you're younger, you think that's kind of cool, right? You're like, Oh, Jim Morrison's a badass. And then you get older and you're thinking, well, no, you suck, dude. You're like, the crowd came out. It's, you know, they got babysitters. They came out to the show. And now all of a sudden your drunk ass can't even stand on stage. Like,

what are you doing, man? That's a good point. Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, I think that's a downflow for many artists too, is like they think that they're bigger than their own fan base, in a sense, like they can do anything. You know, I think Kanye's been there a few times too. He's like canceled shows in the middle of it just because he got annoyed or just canceled the whole tour. And you know, you just can't do things like that. I'm pretty sure Oasis did that too when they first came to the US. The two brothers got to fight and they canceled like half

the tour. And I mean, yeah, that's

no way to win people over.

No, it's not cool, man. That's selfish.