Hesad: I got sober at 24 from a heroine adition, and i got sober in a twelvth step recovery programme. And my growth years were all about growing up, showing up, cleaning up. Even my buddhist inquiry was very focused on the psychological elements of it. It's really only been in the last seven years that i started tuning into the waking up side of it. The idea of you going to the guru or wise figure and asking them for all kinds of things that were outside of their wheel house seems to me the most prome. Is like going to a cellar butt and asks them for sex advice.

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