We slip into an error when we talk about mandukio punished. What is the error? And it has to be understood carefully. You talk about three states, waking, dreaming, deep sleep. So the waker is where? Where do you find the waker in the waking state? The dreamer and the deep sleeper are also available right now. If that is so, where is turium available? Ah, this, you must say with confidence, the ultimate reality, the pure consciousness, athman brahman gad, turium, whatever you call it, is available right here. Myself. It's not a fourth ornament. I may act through the body and mind