I think there's a real authenticity behind the straw, especially with these hard stories that you're doing. There's a human being struggling to like observing the suffering and having to bear the burden that this kind of suffering exists in the world. I tend to see that as really beautiful. Like when like the meta piece of it? Yeah, just put yourself into the movie a little bit. For some reason me as a fan, as a viewer, that's enjoyable too.

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