I'm hearing two things here that I think are huge. One of them is grounding these conversations and values. And yet we forget to also bring that into our conversations about money and wealth too, like rounding those conversations and values so key. It doesn't have to be 100%. That ownership could be 10% or 20%. But by actually giving you or whoever a stake,. Like even if it's 10 or 15 or 20%, but the net psychological effect on that person who's receiving that support is way different than if it was 0%. Totally.

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