Gan: The original strategy was to spend small, small numbers of special forces to afghanistan to look for bin laden and other alcida leaders. But overtime, it was sort of the definition of a quagmonter. We oly got sucked in deeper and deeper. And no, it's like a frog boiling in water. Gradually, he doesn't really notice it at first. That's kind of what happened to us in afghanistan,. despite the fact that we said we wouldn't repeat our experience in vinam. Really thats we just got dragged in deeper and deep.

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