i don't want to give the impression that i am counter enlightenment, or that iam anti enlightenment. I think what we should be open to is when you begin to unlock that there is power working, there is will working. The famous phrase from bacon, of science can be brought intherele of man's estate, and you can start to see material progress happen. We've seen these things used terrifically in our modern world - nuclear weapons for example. That wasn't religion, that wasn't superstition, that wasn’t bigotry. That was science. And we have to come to terms with that aspect now, i think.