I don't think we needed to learn that therapy worked, right? That was like a happenstance discovery after the fact. Because it must work some way. There's got to be some kind of brain and body based way that it works because otherwise, you're a Cartesian dualist. But there is something interesting. Like when you said the thing about the drug, I was like, Oh, yeah, that could help. And something in me, yeah, not the limbic system, but that other one, the good part, the good advanced recess. It's just devils and angels.

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