I like what you're talking about, because i think there's a certain point where it's not whiny or nagger or weak or bad. You have to go like, hey, my shid is my shid, and what happened wa really o kand and that's ye. I don't know, anything is gained in having this lake like the great depression mentality of 'they fed me so i can't be mad' And for that, i still have some of those programmes, and they benefit me. But i also, through therapy, found that it's ok at some point to go Like, ye no, my parents didn't a hit me, or whatever you want