Introduction

This episode of the pastors podcast, season too, part of the ges caledo podcast. We're just happy to have you a listen, pastors. This is what we're doing. Our heart his really just come alongside pastors, church leaders, those that are in thetr s building church,. But also hopefully challenge you, equip you, gets you to growan That's really what wer can be talking about on this episode, is the issue of growth. Just how do you kind of create that around? I just see a lot of leaders that are stuck. A lot of leaders said, art axly growing. And i won't theologically get into this right now, but