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A Conversation with the Counselor: Derek Chollet on Navigating the World

War on the Rocks

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War on the Rocks Podcast - What's Surprised You This Time?

i first walked in these doorsa 30 years ago this summer, as an inturn on the policy planting staff. And so i've known them for 30 years, since i was in college. My first boss after, after a after college, was working for james baker. So i was able to re reunite with him, which was really special. It's not a surprise, but it's sort of, in these government jobs, i think you find, i've always found tha, you learn a ton.

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