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Matthew Side: "Woke" has become utterly politicized in the United States. He says we don't want our white affluent values to be corrupted by woke forces. But these are exactly the same kind of forces that Lead Belly was warning people about, he says. Next time, we tell the story of the first use of woke in print by a young novelist and ask what that had to do with Martin Luther King's sermon.