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Shrey Jain: Applied Scientist at Microsoft Research Special Projects
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Plural Publics: How to Fix Our Norms
Glen while and Divya Siddharth co-authored a paper called plural publics which should be coming out around the time this podcast comes out. It tries to answer how do we preserve and establish context in the era of AI. The goal is to ensure that not just one group or one insular group but many groups can communicate with each other, they say. Glen says it's important to have these kinds of conversations honestly to help work out some of these norms which we've never had to work out before.
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Speaker 2
mean you can imagine you know you can imagine you know very strong norms emerging here where it's like absolutely unforgivable to send your AI in place of yourself without disclosing it for example I'm pretty sure that that is absolutely unforgivable right I
Speaker 1
agree I could not agree more yeah
Speaker 2
yeah like and you know it's it's important to have these kinds of conversations honestly to help work out some of these norms which we've never had to work out before right I mean I think you know the you know hopefully we can do it fast enough
Speaker 1
I do think I do think the norms the norms have we've gone through some of these norm changes as we have on the internet the way we sign off on emails or like the way we have a subject title and the way we like do these like very obscure things in human communication if you integrate over all time we've figured out ways that it's like kindness regard stray or like all these other things that are like now the norms of how you send an email and if you don't do that it's like weird or you're being rude or like there's these expectations we have a like what something looks like and I think we're sure you're right like we're just gonna have a new ways of like what that looks like with AI
Speaker 2
right right but we've got to move quickly I mean one of the challenges like one of the challenges that I've worried about in different contexts for a long time is that you know norms take time to evolve and technology moves really quickly and the technology that we're talking about now is moving like unprecedentedly quickly and and so you know let's just hope it's not like a losing battle to keep you know to to get our norms into shape you know but you know that what but what can you do we need to fix our norms we need to think about all this stuff much more and we need to develop some of the the other ideas that you've been working on we'd love to hear about about your thoughts on
Speaker 1
yeah I love to share with you work that we've been doing called plural publics this is work yeah joint work with people who listen to this podcast probably knows Glen while and Divya Siddharth we co-authored a paper called plural publics which should be coming out around the time this podcast I assume is around this like time frame of coming out which tries to answer this problem of how do we preserve and establish context in the era of AI and the core of it is first like what are we looking for in a communication channel and we try to outline what exactly that that is and we would call these communication channels publics again emerging from the John Dewey-esque influence here but also public here being this like academic word that people use to describe a space in which people communicate we define a public to be a communication channel in which everyone knows that everyone knows that everyone knows that they have the context to communicate in a given space and they all have that context to communicate and so it's common knowledge that they show up into a group chat or that they show up into a given platform and they know that the other person they're talking to has that context and so they can communicate with one another okay so that's like the goal and the plural publics here is like the goal of having many such publics it's like how can we ensure that not just one public or one insular group or one really positive group has this communication channel how can we ensure that they can intersect in all these you know really rich ways
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