COVID - Did It Come Up in the Conversation?

At the time of that conversation you were both facing serious accusations about decision to contract out management of a volunteer program to the We Charity. Did that come up in the conversation? I can honestly tell you that it didn't come up and it's important in that to recognize context. From my perspective there had always been tension. The need for tension between a finance minister and a Prime Minister is really clear. But if it gets too intense, you know you do have to think about whether you're going to be able to work together.