Hannah Cornwell and Tom Holland talk about their new book, PAX. Hannah says readers are fascinated by Rome because of its complete difference to ourselves. She adds that the idea that Rome is something to be emulated has been a constant throughout European history. Game of Thrones' Hadrian's Wall was inspired by George R. R. Martin visiting the site in Househeads. They also discuss how we should not only understand Romans on our terms but with their own contradictions.

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